Rise of the Third Wave - Kevin Mandia - Watters Edge - Episode #1

Host John Watters sits down with longtime friend Kevin Mandia, CEO of Armadin, to dig into founding Mandiant, surviving the 2008 recession, and the APT1 report that put Chinese nation state hacking on the front page and reshaped the threat intelligence industry. The conversation moves through the FireEye acquisition, the hard years of stepping into the CEO role, and the eventual sale to Google, before landing on why Kevin came out of retirement to build Armadin and bet everything on autonomous, AI led security.